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		<title>DavidM: Created page with &quot;{{Subventions |import ref=Subventions 1882 |Code postal=J6A 2T8 |Rue=542, rue Notre-Dame, bureau 200 |Ville=Repentigny |Ministère=MESSF(Emploi) }}&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;{{Subventions |import ref=Subventions 1882 |Code postal=J6A 2T8 |Rue=542, rue Notre-Dame, bureau 200 |Ville=Repentigny |Ministère=MESSF(Emploi) }}&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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= Overview =&lt;br /&gt;
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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2666/4027443168_879c7b7ccf.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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== Who is a non-technical person ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Focus is not technology but they can contribute in some way&lt;br /&gt;
* Never learned programming concepts&lt;br /&gt;
* Didn&amp;#039;t realize Wikipedia can be edited&lt;br /&gt;
* Maybe used a web content management system, blog, Facebook&lt;br /&gt;
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== What do they want ==&lt;br /&gt;
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# to solve their problem, usually a &amp;quot;one of those&amp;quot; web site with some special requirements&lt;br /&gt;
# something that looks good - design is still paramount&lt;br /&gt;
# to learn about the participatory web&lt;br /&gt;
# to create reusable data?&lt;br /&gt;
# to have more control over their own site but keep things simple&lt;br /&gt;
## usually they don&amp;#039;t want to &amp;#039;innovate,&amp;#039; just do what everyone else is doing&lt;br /&gt;
# to work with someone they trust&lt;br /&gt;
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== What do I want ==&lt;br /&gt;
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# promote digital literacy ­— filling out forms isn&amp;#039;t it, stop treating computers as a typewriter&lt;br /&gt;
## reusable data under fair terms of re-use&lt;br /&gt;
# get people to consider issues of site design and how to organize information&lt;br /&gt;
# help flatten organizations and their external relationships&lt;br /&gt;
# promote transparency and co-development&lt;br /&gt;
# grow my own skills based on relevant requirements&lt;br /&gt;
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== Types and motivations of participants==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Traditional &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;executive&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — &amp;quot;everyone else is doing it,&amp;quot; inexpensive solution&lt;br /&gt;
** ideally they will participate but getting them to can be difficult&lt;br /&gt;
** may be more cautious about full commitment - license, security, who can access and edit&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Creative group&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; or &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;individual&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — may be inspired but needs constant guidance&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Worker bee&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — tasked to use the wiki&lt;br /&gt;
** may be less receptive to wiki ideals, make it straightforward&lt;br /&gt;
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= SMW vs Wordpress =&lt;br /&gt;
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Compare to Wordpress — &amp;quot;Raskin vs Englebart,&amp;quot; dashboard + specialized appliance model vs learning to use a computer&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.retrofacto.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/wordpress.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Wordpress&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is task driven. Forms for every day tasks. Need to map MW extensions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Every day tasks —&lt;br /&gt;
* Everything oriented towards content management around blogging&lt;br /&gt;
* SEO, user management&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Delete&amp;quot; content, one click &lt;br /&gt;
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= Success and failure =&lt;br /&gt;
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== Failure ==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://wiki.zooid.org/images/no-edits.png&lt;br /&gt;
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* Commitment vs follow through&lt;br /&gt;
* Tangly mess&lt;br /&gt;
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== Success==&lt;br /&gt;
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In order:&lt;br /&gt;
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# Useful read-only resource&lt;br /&gt;
# basic editing using forms&lt;br /&gt;
# wiki markup&lt;br /&gt;
# sharing knowledge, creating more converts&lt;br /&gt;
# Creating templates&lt;br /&gt;
# Creating queries&lt;br /&gt;
# Adjusting classes&lt;br /&gt;
# Creating classes&lt;br /&gt;
# understanding of good schema design, distributed data, licensing&lt;br /&gt;
# distributed applications, creating standards&lt;br /&gt;
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= How =&lt;br /&gt;
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Identify groups, strategies&lt;br /&gt;
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Threaten - others are doing it, loss of leadership&lt;br /&gt;
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Inspire - self empowerment, less dependence, creating, leading, &amp;quot;where the web is going&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Lots and lots of guiding&lt;br /&gt;
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Appoint leads based on interests, give them responsibilities&lt;br /&gt;
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Peer helpers - spread the virus&lt;br /&gt;
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Translators&lt;br /&gt;
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Profles of uses&lt;br /&gt;
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The importance of design&lt;br /&gt;
* promote the cues of Wikipedia but provide something original&lt;br /&gt;
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Exhibit example of copying and pasting to excel using semantic web data&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>DavidM</name></author>
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