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| | http://www.onoir.com/ - completely dark restaurant staffed by blind persons - I heard about this place on the radio but couldn't find it because I thought it was "au noir." |
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| | http://english.montrealplus.ca/portal/profile.do?profileID=505467 - Palais de l'Inde we ordered "vegetarian for two" |
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| I'm afraid even as a consumer advocate I don't find your arguments to
| | http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20030730/MONTREAL30/TPTravel/?pageRequested=all - list of places, including entertainment/interest. |
| Rogers very convincing.
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| As I said to you in our other conversation, in order to be successful,
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| there must be very specific, reasonable requests most people will agree with.
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| Otherwise, people cannot be bothered, as typified in
| | http://www.geocities.com/cafebyblos/ Cafe Byblos - Nice Iranian/Persian atmosphere, very friendly owners, however the food seems average at best, aside from the Sunday evening specialty dish. |
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| their expectations from corporations are very low, or it "works for
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| them" (after substantial inconvenience, see Y's response). This
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| defeats any ability to make noise to get attention, to organize behind
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| reasonable demands that most consumers will agree to.
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| If I were to write a reasonable charter for mobile providers, it would
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| 1. The consumer is paying for a certain amount of bandwidth and voice
| | http://www.dieuduciel.com/ - brasserie on laurier ouest |
| usage per month, they can use it however they want with whatever
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| devices they want, as long as they are not disrupting the network.
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| 2. If the carrier is offering extended contracts, the user should have
| | http://www.chao-phraya.com/ - thai - 50 laurier ouest |
| reasonably priced options if their device is lost, stolen or damaged,
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| or it proves inappropriate for any reason. An upfront charge with
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| replacement devices at a pro-rated replacement cost is reasonable.
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| 3. Everyone's dealings with the company should be the same, based on
| | http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~jer/visit/rest.html - long list of restos |
| clear rules, we should not be hearing about exceptional offers to
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| individuals when we are treated in a substandard way, after being
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| exasperated by inconsistent and apathetic service.
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| There has clearly been some trickery on Rogers' part. We are all here
| | http://www.montreal.com/tourism/veggie.html - good list of veggie restos |
| primarily because we respond to ideas of an alternative, Linux/open
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| source based operating system which we can understand, participate in
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| the community in a meaningful way, build apps for and work with the
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| low level operating system. Rogers did claim the Android would be an
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| "open," "revolution" phone. They created a campaign around these ideas
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| and specifically the Android devices. to entrap persons such as
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| ourselves who would respond to these ideas. When they realized the
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| Dream they had sold would not be upgradeable, they made an offer to
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| upgrade Dream users to the Magic, specifically stating this was the
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| reason. There was no mention of the 911 problem, and it's noteworthy
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| that the 911 problem was fixed months before in community provided
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| distributions of Android. The upgrade offer was cancelled prematurely,
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| and after a period of time we were told the upgrade was due to the 911
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| problem, and now that it had been fixed the upgrade would no longer be
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| available. Android users who didn't want to lose data and eventually
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| voice access were forced to "upgrade" their devices to a distribution
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| that doesn't support community upgrading.
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| Clearly, there are mistakes and dishonesty on Rogers' part here.
| | http://english.montrealplus.ca/bars_restaurants/cafe_lezard/1083553 - another neato cafe with internet |
| Putting forward a personal grab bag of complaints may get you out of your
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| contract, but you'll be right back where you started in two months.
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| Having a clear, organized statement of requests is likely to be more
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| Mobile devices are the future of the Internet, just like the "real"
| | Le Jardin De Panos (greek avv) http://english.montrealplus.ca/portal/profile.do?&profileID=479215 |
| Internet it needs to be more than a channel to keep corporations alive
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| and feed us commercials. Rogers is already making very good profits,
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| they should be more than happy with charging $1200 a year to provide
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| basic service and let us run whatever device we want.
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| Some people will say they can already run any third party device on
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| the Rogers network, but they're operating in a grey zone, until this
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| is clarified we can be forced to buy a Rogers provided device whether
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| we want it or not, and issues such as billing, access and support will
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| always be in question.
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| Clarifying that we can run any device on the Rogers network will
| | * Thai - Chu Chai (4088 St-Denis, 843-4194) |
| result in a a clear, open market for devices, leading to greater
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| consumer confidence and participation, more choice with easier to
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| upgrade devices, and better prices - like computers using "regular"
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| Internet.
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| | * Bombay Mahal - supposed to be very good |
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| | * http://www.triexpressrestaurant.com/menuenglish.html - ! |
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| | === pizza === |
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| | * Angela pizza 1662, boulevard de Maisonneuve Ouest http://english.montrealplus.ca/portal/profile.do?profileID=559150 |
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| | * http://ameliospizza.com/ - <s>stupid web site, but </s>I pronounce the pizza pretty good. Lots of different veggies on the vegetarian pizza. |
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| | == Net cafes == |
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| | https://auth.ilesansfil.org/hotspots_map.php - Nice low key place. |
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| | http://www.montreal.com/tourism/intacc.html |
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| | http://english.montrealplus.ca/feature/bring_your_own_wine/6001/index.jsp - good listing of apportez votre vin places |
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| | == Patios == |
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| | http://www.federal-realestate.com/info-montreal-city-information/montreal-patios.html |